{"id":45102,"date":"2021-10-27T20:42:32","date_gmt":"2021-10-27T09:42:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/?p=45102"},"modified":"2025-03-04T03:14:19","modified_gmt":"2025-03-03T16:14:19","slug":"community-conversations-georgina","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/community-conversations-georgina\/","title":{"rendered":"Meet Georgina, the Intrepid traveller inspiring Black women to travel solo"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Welcome to Community Conversations, an interview series featuring Intrepid travellers, creatives and activists in our community. In every Q&amp;A we\u2019ll ask an inspiring individual about their world view and their world adventures.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Today, we\u2019re talking to Georgina Lawton, journalist and author of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/raceless-georgina-lawton\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Raceless<\/em><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hardiegrant.com\/au\/publishing\/bookfinder\/book\/black-girls-take-world-by-georgina-lawton\/9781741177022\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Black Girls Take World<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Hi Georgina! Tell us about your book, <em>Black Girls Take World<\/em>. What inspired you to write it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From 2017 to 2019, I did a lot of solo travel \u2014 I went to the Dominican Republic, New York City, Nicaragua, Cuba, Mexico. I was on the road nonstop, and I learned a lot about myself. In my memoir, <em>Raceless<\/em>, I write about the link between travel and identity. I found myself drawn to spaces and countries with people who looked like me. I thought about how that shaped my identity and how that helped me learn more about who I was.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When you&#8217;re Black and in spaces where people don&#8217;t look like you abroad, that can often invite a curiosity \u2014 and sometimes that curiosity can lead to danger. But as Black women, as people of colour, we have just as much a right to travel without being hassled. We have just as much right to be in spaces where there might not be people who look like us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You wrote an article in <em>The Guardian<\/em> about how <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/travel\/2021\/jun\/10\/why-black-solo-female-travel-is-a-radical-act\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Black solo female travel is a radical act<\/strong><\/a><strong>. What did you mean by that?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For many years, Black people couldn\u2019t experience leisure time in the same way their counterparts could. That comes from slavery and the movement of the Black body being policed. For so long, Black people have been told how to live, how to move. Our bodies haven\u2019t been our own. I think still to this day, that influences why a Black woman travelling unaccompanied provokes a lot of intrigue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s a radical act because every time we go beyond where we&#8217;re told to be, we are breaking boundaries. Every time we take a trip, we are stepping away from that history whereby Black bodies were seen as a means for capitalist production. We\u2019re reclaiming lost time, taking control and saying \u2018this is for us\u2019. And that challenges centuries of stereotypes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When we look at the kind of people who have traditionally been allowed leisure time, we see that Black people and other Indigenous and minority groups were not and are still not entitled to it. So when we travel and notice it is mainly white, wealthy tourists, we feel the brunt of those economic disparities. There\u2019s still a perception that we shouldn&#8217;t be there, That we don&#8217;t have as much money to spend or we&#8217;re not of the same class. Travel is always political, every journey. Even when Black people end up in the same spaces as their counterparts today, it\u2019s political because we haven\u2019t started from the same spot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos.jpg\" data-rel=\"penci-gallery-image-content\" ><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"451\" src=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-45123\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos-425x240.jpg 425w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos-585x330.jpg 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Georgina in the Galapagos | Photo courtesy Georgina Lawton<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What advice would you give to women who want to embark on their first solo trip?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I believe most people are good. And each country is made up of millions of individuals, thousands of different ethnic groups. To assume that an entire country is racist or sexist or dangerous is dangerous in itself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, you should listen to news reports or government advice if there&#8217;s a spate of attacks against certain groups,&nbsp; or a legacy of geo-political instability. I&#8217;m not saying discount all that. But when we look online for proof that an area is safe, we also have to make sure we&#8217;re reading from locals on the ground or people who have lived there a long time. I don&#8217;t necessarily take one traveller&#8217;s view on a blog written four years ago as proof that an entire country is racist or sexist or homophobic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We don&#8217;t hear enough about the good experiences \u2014 when somebody lent you their phone or you were picked up on the side of the road by a stranger and it was fine. We just hear about the terrible one-off incidents of backpackers being murdered by their dates. And that does happen and it\u2019s terrible, but often it\u2019s reported in the most salacious way, I think, to warn women not to go against the grain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>How do you think the past year, with COVID-19 and the Black Lives Matter movement, will impact travel?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>COVID has given us time to pause and think about what travel means to us \u2014 about who gets to travel and who gets to be scrutinised at borders. That\u2019s been a wake-up call to a lot of people: navigating border restrictions, travel bans, feeling anxious about travel. A lot of \u2018Westerners\u2019 and people who never had any difficulty with travelling suddenly have to grapple with all this stuff that many minority groups have struggled for years with. It was like an equalizer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s this thing called passport privilege, whereby you&#8217;re used to picking up your American or Australian or European passport and hopping on a plane. You can have passport privilege as a Black Brit or Black American. But suddenly that ceased to exist for everyone. Suddenly, all of us are held up at the border and asked for COVID checks and all these things you never had to worry about. I think for non-Black travellers, that was surprising. And yet, many non-white travellers have dealt with all that for years: being asked to prove your nationality because people don&#8217;t believe someone like you has a&nbsp;British passport, struggling with a visa because you\u2019re Black and from a non-Western country, feeling watched or hypervisible when you\u2019re travelling \u2014 all of those things affect passport privilege, it isn\u2019t linear.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Travel&nbsp; became another area for these discussions about what it&#8217;s like to be a non-white person in a world that prioritises whiteness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_cuba.jpg\" data-rel=\"penci-gallery-image-content\" ><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_cuba.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-45125\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_cuba.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_cuba-425x239.jpg 425w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_cuba-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_cuba-585x329.jpg 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Georgina in Cuba | Photo courtesy Georgina Lawton<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>How has travelling been for you, as a Black woman?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a Black traveller with a British passport, I&#8217;ve been held up at the airport a few times by people who can&#8217;t believe somebody who looks like me is British. I&#8217;ve been turned away from a hotel in Cuba because I was mistaken for a prostitute. I\u2019ve had clubs in Colombia charge me while they let my white friends float through. I\u2019ve passed as locals and felt both the privilege and the discrimination that comes with that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The reality of those moments is just sinking in for people who didn&#8217;t realise this was anti-Blackness. This is worldwide, it&#8217;s happening everywhere. When we go abroad, we see the effects of colonialism getting replicated again and again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But on the upside, there&#8217;s so much joy in being a Black person and going to Black spaces. If you can do that as a Black traveller, you absolutely should, because it\u2019s a privilege to move through these spaces undisturbed, to connect with people in a deeper way. It\u2019s transformative and brings home how much we have in common, even though we\u2019re at different ends of the diaspora.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What has travel taught you about yourself and about the world?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When you travel alone and have to constantly adapt to new people and new situations where things can go wrong in a foreign language \u2014 perhaps trying to find health care or just get yourself from A to B \u2014 it proves how much resilience and strength you have.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve learned to trust myself and my decisions. When things aren\u2019t right, I feel that in my gut. I\u2019ve learned to listen to that little voice. Leaning into your intuition is key and you only really do that when you&#8217;re removed from everything that&#8217;s familiar to you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We often forget how much of the human experience is shared, how you can connect despite language, despite geography. When you&#8217;re in your little bubble with your friends, in your home city, you forget all that. It&#8217;s only when you step outside of everything you know that you feel the mutual points of connection. That\u2019s important to widen your world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What are some of your most memorable moments from your travels?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I lost my phone in Medellin, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/colombia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Colombia<\/a>, at this tiny market, which you have to take a cable car up to. I realised on the way down, but the security guards wouldn\u2019t let me back up because it was the end of the day. In the morning, I went back up the mountain and was going around to all the stalls, asking in my broken Spanish. And then this little old man says, \u201cOh yes, I saved it for you just in case you came back. Here you go.\u201d I just thought that was a great example of how people can be good when you expect things to go wrong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I had such an amazing time in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/cuba\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Cuba<\/a>. It\u2019s unlike anywhere I&#8217;ve ever been, like a portal to a forgotten world. They still have 1950s Chevrolets. They still have horses and carts. Wifi isn\u2019t available everywhere. It felt like stepping back in time. If you&#8217;re unprepared for a country like that, it can be challenging. But I loved it because it was such a different pace of life. I stayed in homestays there, which was a great way to understand how Cubans live. And I took some amazing tours. We did an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.urbanadventures.com\/havana-tour-classic-american-car-tour-of-havana\">old 50s car tour<\/a>, which was great.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos_tortoises.jpg\" data-rel=\"penci-gallery-image-content\" ><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos_tortoises.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-45129\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos_tortoises.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos_tortoises-425x239.jpg 425w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos_tortoises-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/georgina_galapagos_tortoises-585x329.jpg 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">With giant tortoises in the Galapagos | Photo courtesy Georgina Lawton<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>One of the best moments of my travel life was on a snorkelling trip in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/galapagos-islands\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Galapagos Islands<\/a>. We&#8217;d already swam through coral and saw hammerhead sharks and giant turtles. Then, just as we were getting back into the boat, the guide said, \u201cQuickly, quickly, put your goggles back on! Look around you!\u201d And there&#8217;s this shoal of stingrays just swimming around me. And then a giant turtle swam past. And then all these fish. It was just one of those pinch-me moments that only happen once in your life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What\u2019s still on you bucket list?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I would love to go island-hopping in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/philippines\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Philippines<\/a>. But I also love exploring big, noisy metropolises, so <a href=\"https:\/\/www.urbanadventures.com\/destination\/tokyo-tours\">Tokyo<\/a>&#8216;s on my list. And a <a href=\"\/japan\/japan-real-food-adventure-160305\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">food tour around Japan<\/a>, I would absolutely die to do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;d like to do more of Africa. I&#8217;m learning more about who I am as a person, as a Black mixed woman. I would love to go to Nigeria or more parts of West Africa \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/ghana\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ghana<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/senegal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Senegal<\/a>. And to do that with a trip leader would be key.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Who are some people in the travel space that inspire you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Evita Robinson, who founded <a href=\"https:\/\/nomadnesstraveltribe.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nomadness<\/a>, is a big inspiration. She\u2019s created an entire community for Black people to travel together and celebrate not only their identities, but just have fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think Annette Richmond, the founder of <a href=\"https:\/\/fatgirlstraveling.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Fat Girls Traveling<\/a>, is amazing. She&#8217;s created this space for plus-sized travellers. She talks about times she&#8217;s been turned away from things like diving because they didn\u2019t have equipment for her size. She\u2019s created a platform in which people can share resources, so they&#8217;re not embarrassed, and the same thing doesn\u2019t happen to them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nanjala Nyabola is a great journalist who&#8217;s just written a book called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hurstpublishers.com\/book\/travelling-while-black\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Traveling While Black: Essays Inspired by Life on the Move<\/em><\/a>. It\u2019s really exciting to see this wave of Black travel journalists and experts making waves.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You can follow Georgina on&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GeorginaLawton\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Twitter<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/georginalawton\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Instagram<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>We&#8217;re giving three lucky people a copy of Georgina&#8217;s book &#8220;Black Girls Take World: The Travel Bible for Black Woman with Boundless Wanderlust.&#8221; Comment below on how travel has shaped your life for your chance to win a copy.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to Community Conversations, an interview series featuring Intrepid travellers, creatives and activists in our community. 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