{"id":32701,"date":"2019-02-07T08:30:00","date_gmt":"2019-02-06T21:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures?p=32701&#038;preview=true&#038;preview_id=32701"},"modified":"2025-05-13T06:28:05","modified_gmt":"2025-05-12T20:28:05","slug":"first-transgender-tour-leader","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/first-transgender-tour-leader\/","title":{"rendered":"Meet Sasha, Intrepid&#8217;s first transgender tour leader in Thailand"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>The first things that strikes you about Sasha are her positivity and her enormous smile.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I meet her for this interview virtually \u2013 she\u2019s in her apartment in Bangkok, I\u2019m in the Intrepid office in Melbourne. She\u2019s just finished leading a trip and is making the most of her few days off by having her air conditioner fixed. I hear the repair person banging around in the background as Sasha tells me about how she came to work with Intrepid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8216;I\u2019ve been working for Intrepid since 2011; I got a job with another tour company after I finished studying English and tourism at university, but my friend told me I should apply for a role Intrepid. I went to the interview and got the job! 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Over the past eight years, she\u2019s been leading small group adventures around her home country of <a href=\"\/thailand\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-wpil=\"url\">Thailand<\/a>, and in neighbouring&nbsp;<a href=\"\/cambodia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-wpil=\"url\">Cambodia<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><a href=\"\/thailand\/explore-northern-thailand-159896\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Explore Northern Thailand on an 8-day adventure<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8216;When I meet my groups at the start of the trips, I don\u2019t tell them I\u2019m a Miss, not a Mister, or that I\u2019m transgender. I just present myself as who I am: Sasha!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8216;People don\u2019t really ask me what I am; they just enjoy what I do, and what I show them in my country. Sometimes people ask me about my life \u2013 &#8220;Are you married? 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I think it makes a positive difference to some travellers having me as their leader.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8216;I met one couple \u2013 at the beginning of the trip I thought they were just friends \u2013 and I was showing them around and talking about the city, and telling them a bit about myself. And after a while I realised that they weren\u2019t \u2018just friends\u2019. So I sat down with them and re-introduced myself \u2013 \u201cI\u2019m transgender!\u201d I think it put them much more at ease. They were very worried to hold hands when they were walking around, and I told them Thailand is very open and respectful towards same-sex couples. 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Same-sex marriage has only just been legalised, and prejudice towards members of the LGBTQIA+ community is still pretty rife. Admittedly, I went into this conversation expecting something quite different; that Sasha would have likely faced numerous challenges from people who didn\u2019t understand her way of life. I was so happy to be proven otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our conversation turns to a topic close to both of our hearts: food. Sure, the architecture, temples, jungles and beaches are huge drawcards for travellers going to Thailand, but the main driver for my trip through Northern Thailand in 2016 was the food. I ask Sasha if there\u2019s a particular dish everyone going to Thailand should try.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center post-title single-post-title\"><a href=\"\/adventures\/first-time-traveller-heres-why-thailand-is-the-perfect-destination-for-you\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>READ MORE: How a solo trip to Thailand gave me the connection I was searching for<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image size-full wp-image-32802\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-plate.jpg\" alt=\"A plate of fried insects in Thailand\" class=\"wp-image-32802\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-plate.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-plate-425x239.jpg 425w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-plate-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-plate-585x329.jpg 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">&#8220;Some people like trying bugs, like deep-fried grasshoppers and things like that.&#8221;<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8216;Pad ka prow. Everyone should try it! It\u2019s hot chilli, basil, rice and meat. But the first thing people eat a lot of in Thailand is pad Thai. That\u2019s the number one famous dish. My groups are always \u201cPad Thai, pad Thai, pad Thai!\u201d. It\u2019s basic, but it\u2019s really delicious. Some people like trying bugs too \u2013 like deep-fried grasshoppers and things like that \u2013 but there are lots of other great things to eat, like noodle soup, barbecued meat, curries, chicken with sticky rice. People are often surprised by how cheap and delicious the food in Thailand is.&#8217;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image size-full wp-image-32801\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-8.jpg\" alt=\"Travellers at a street food stall in Thailand\" class=\"wp-image-32801\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-8.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-8-425x239.jpg 425w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-8-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Intrepid-Travel-thailand_bangkok_food-night-market-8-585x329.jpg 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">&#8216;People are often surprised by how cheap and delicious the food in Thailand is.&#8217;<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I admit that I fell even more in love with pad Thai on my Thai travels, and own up to a fairly alarming addiction to mango and sticky rice (I was eating it daily).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sasha says, &#8216;On the trip I just finished, I found some mango sticky rice on the street \u2013 it was around 50 baht, which is about two Australian dollars. My group had never tried it before and they all said \u201cOh I love this, I want more, <em>when can we have it again<\/em>?!?!\u201d&#8217;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><a data-wpil=\"url\" href=\"\/subscribe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Subscribe to Intrepid&#8217;s newsletter for travel stories, inspiration, special offers, giveaways and more<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image size-full wp-image-32705\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"522\" src=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Sasha4-e1549241568383.jpg\" alt=\"A woman stands in a field, striking a funny pose\" class=\"wp-image-32705\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Sasha4-e1549241568383.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Sasha4-e1549241568383-425x277.jpg 425w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Sasha4-e1549241568383-768x501.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.intrepidtravel.com\/adventures\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Sasha4-e1549241568383-585x382.jpg 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\u201cI\u2019ve been working with Intrepid for eight years and I\u2019ve never met anyone who wasn\u2019t comfortable to travel with me.\u201d<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The message in Sasha\u2019s Skype profile consists of four short words that sum up everything I know about her from today\u2019s conversation: be a good person. Speaking to Sasha, it seems that this is a key part of what she believes, and what is most important in life; the amount of money you make or the car you drive doesn\u2019t matter. What <em>does<\/em> matter is being kind, welcoming and open.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8216;We are all different!&#8217; Sasha exclaims, her smile beaming widely across her face. &#8216;Man, woman, gay, lesbian, transgender \u2013 we all have different characters, and different things make us happy. If people respect each other, there are less judgments. I think that\u2019s important. Just to be a good person.&#8217;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Interested in an adventure in Thailand? 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